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post Oct 15 2009, 03:43 PM
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From amazon:

2012, the Bible, and the End of the World
by Mark Hitchcock
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In 2012, the Bible, and the End of the World, bestselling prophecy expert Mark Hitchcock explores a fascinating last-days controversy that is gaining the attention of millions all over the globe.

What should Christians make of the rapidly spreading speculations that the world will end on December 21, 2012? The ancient Mayans were expert astronomers and their advanced calendar cycles predict 12/21/2012 as a catastrophic day of apocalypse. This prophecy has spawned a growing number of fringe-element books, Web sites, and even a major movie—complete with all-star cast—scheduled to release in July 2009.

Missing in the furor is a biblical perspective. Bible teacher Mark Hitchcock—whose books have sold more than 300,000 copies—examines the following questions:

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Why December 21, 2012?
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Can we trust the Mayan alarm clock?
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Does the Bible say anything about 2012
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What signs will tell us that Armageddon is near?

This book provides a fascinating survey of both the historical past and the prophetic future. Readers will discover how to effectively counter baseless speculation with biblical fact.
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post Oct 15 2009, 04:51 PM
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Did you get it???


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Psa 40:8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law [is] within my heart.

Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. (Philippians 4:6-7, NIV)
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post Oct 15 2009, 10:41 PM
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Yup. Everyone should get this book.

The author really researched this.

From the book;

Ten 2012 websites:

http://www.survive2012.com

http://www.alignment.com

http://thisistheend.com

http://www.mayancalendar2012.org

http://www.howtosurvive2012.com

http://2012predictions.net

http://ww.endofdays.org

http://apocalypse2012.com

http://december212012.com

http://2012theodyssey.com

He's not saying they have it right, just giving a small example of how much is out there.

He keeps talking about how could the Mayans have possibly had the astronomical knowledge they did without telescopes or computers and such.

From the book:
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Lawrence Jones notes, "Without telescopes or any other apparatus, Mayan astronomers calculated the length of the lunar month to be 29.53020 days, within 34 seconds of what we now know to its actual length of 29.53059 days. Overall, the 2000-year-old Mayan calendar is believed by many to be more accurate than the 500-year-old Gregorian calendar we use today."

Now, a few pages later;

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How did they know all this?
Some point to UFOs as the answer....
Others conjecture that highly developed insight was passed to the ancient Egyptians, Mayans, and other sophisticated civilizations in the ancient world by the survivors of the mystical Atlantis. Another possibility, not mentioned by 2012ologists, is that they learned from their gods, which were not gods at all, but demonic spirits that could have communicated this sophisticated knowledge to them. Much of the barbaric, bloodthirsty "worship" of the Mayans, including human sacrifice, can be accounted for if we recognize that it was demonically motivated by the real power behind their gods of stone."



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post Oct 16 2009, 12:59 PM
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I guess I"ll have to add it to my amazon list. Right now I'm reading Mary Queen of Scots, about 900 pages. Maybe I'll read that next. I don't think it was necessarily aliens, I just think there was a reason why this information was not passed on and we don't know what the reason was yet.


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Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. (Philippians 4:6-7, NIV)
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You have to wonder exactly what was in the library at Alexandria and who torched it.

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I couldn't even begin to think about reading something like Mary Queen of Scots. 900 pages? And I thought Michner was bad with books like Texas and Hawaii.

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The 2012 book is 173 pages, you could read it in between chapters of the other book.
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post Oct 16 2009, 10:33 PM
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From the book, he put this link in:

Lost Book of Nostradamus
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In 1994, Italian journalist Enza Massa was at the Italian National Library in Rome when she stumbled upon an unusual find. It was a manuscript dating to 1629, titled: Nostradamus Vatinicia Code. Michel de Notredame, the author's name, was on the inside in indelible ink. This manuscript, never published by Nostradamus, was handed down to the prophet's son and later donated by him to Pope Urban VIII. It did not surface again until now, almost four hundred years later.
The cryptic paintings vary from the strange to the bizarre, with images of popes,decapitations and strange creatures. Known as the "Vaticinia Nostradami",this book has often been considered to be Nostradamus' final prophecies regarding the end of the world as we know it. It was said that Nostradamus had handed the book over to his son who in turn was to donate it to a cardinal at the time who later went on to become Pope Urban VIII; the book eventually ended up in the library. In both the paintings and the accompanying quatrains within, Nostradamus is said to have predicted the Nazi Blitzkrieg, the assassination attempt on Pope John Paul II, the burning of the oil wells of Kuwait by Iraq, and Boris Yeltsin's rise to power.
http://www.mendhak.com/40-the-lost-book-of-nostradamus.aspx

Do click on the link and check out the drawings in the book.


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post Oct 17 2009, 12:40 AM
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Yep, I've always wondered what was in the Library at Alexandra. I can't even imagine what was lost when it was destroyed. I think a lot of knowledge was destroyed for sme reason but I just don't know why or what the point of that was. I think God had His reasons but I don't know what they were. Maybe humans would have done much worse with the world than we did had we kept that information.


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Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. (Philippians 4:6-7, NIV)
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post Oct 17 2009, 07:48 AM
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Or maybe there was information that would have knocked organized religion, or the powers that be, on their butt.

"Go ahead Taylor, go out there to the Forbidden Zone. You may not like what you find."
Dr Zaius,
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But what will he find, Dr Zaius?"


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post Oct 23 2009, 05:21 PM
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This is from the book, the author is talking about post-rapture churches:
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With every true Christian removed, the organized church will quickly fall into the hands of self-seeking opportunists.

OK, that made me think, are we already seeing some of that? Rick Warren, Joel Osteen, and so many more? The leaders of denominations who are tossing Scripture aside?


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post Nov 2 2009, 11:44 AM
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I think that's why so many people are heading to those churches, because they teach what people want to hear instead of what they need to hear so they flock to that type of church.


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